On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:20 PM Mike McGurty <McGurtyM@ae.com> wrote:

I believe we were recently quoted a price of like $900/month (between cross-connect and monthly charge) for 10Mb OpenGear OOB access in a large Canadian Data Center. We passed. While I don’t disagree, you have to pay for these services. The cost far exceeds the value for what is provided in many cases.

I have often been pleasantly surprised by how often I can open a laptop in a colo, see a list of SSIDs, figure out from the name who runs it, and ask nicely if I can please attach an AP(/station) and OOB widget to their network. I've basically always got the response of "Sure, as long as you are only using it for OOB and don't try route traffic over it, no worries....". Often the reply also includes a "... and, could we do the same? You stand up an AP and we'll tunnel OOB through it".

Yes, many colo's frown upon/"ban" Wifi, but what they don't notice doesn't hurt them... The Internet used to be built on people helping each other out - let's see if we can recreate that....

Michael

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mcgurtym=ae.com@nanog.org> on behalf of "jstalder@ieee.org" <jstalder@ieee.org>
Date: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 12:03 PM
To: 'Matthew Crocker' <matthew@corp.crocker.com>, 'NANOG' <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: “Huh? If customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo for a cross-connect”. ~$300/mo might seem an exaggeration, but not for some of us. Even ~$150/mo is ridiculous.

If 4G-ish mobile service won’t work, expect to pay. ;-(

-Joel

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+jstalder=ieee.org@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low cost bandwidth options for out of band management. Currently I have Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well. I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a wireless/ethernet bandwidth option. I only need a couple serial ports and ethernet for when everything breaks.

I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer

I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers.

Thanks

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