JC, Monday, February 3, 2003, 9:43:01 PM, you wrote: JD> Dave Crocker wrote:
Recently I had protracted discussions with a number of Ops folks about this issue and have chosen to drop that debate. I do not agree with blocking port 25, either, but am far more concerned about having a ... JD> Why does a single solution need to be "broadly supported"?
interoperability. when there are choices for solving the same problem, a service can make one choice -- or, in this case, each of at least two different services can make different choices -- and a software vendor can make yet another another. then there is no interoperability. that is exactly the problem that I have repeatedly experienced. JD> IMHO, all JD> that is needed is for each individual to find a solution that works for JD> them, given their preferred email client, email host, and provider options. hmmm. sounds like I have not described the problem clearly enough. So here is the short form: My email service provider permits me to post new email from anywhere on the net, as long as I go through proper authentication. (The details of how this is done do not matter; the method is reasonable and sufficient.) The provider happens to support this posting via port 25. When I am traveling, my access often is through a provider that kindly block outbound port 25, so I cannot post email. Each provider has behaved as you suggest, and the result is that I cannot post email. JD> My present solution is to ssh into a server where I have an account, Once again: I have no doubt that individuals are able to solve their individual problems, individually, especially when they are technically savvy. That approach does not make for a viable, large-scale (as in mass-market) industry. d/ -- Dave <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com> Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://www.brandenburg.com> t +1.408.246.8253; f +1.408.850.1850