If you're willing to do for FREE, all the better! The point that I was making is that as a customer I see "value" in having SPAM blocked. This would be an extremely valued "feature" for business customers. You may lose customers by not telling them even though you may be filtering for other reasons such as network abuse. They may go to another ISP who is promoting a "SPAM free network" whether or not it is technically feasible -- just as long as they're trying and working with customers to eliminate it. The bottom line...if you do filter, tell us [customers], and we thank you... As far as letting spammers run rampant for a while, well, what's done is done. The same thing should have been said about computer viruses. Viruses will be with us for a long time, if not forever...and a lot of money has been made on virus protection. Hell, who ever thought McAfee could buy a $1.3 billion dollar company... Cheers, Marty J.D. Falk wrote:
On Oct 28, Martin Cox <mcox@yagosys.com> wrote:
As a customer with separate ISP connections for business and personal use, I would pay, as a feature, for SPAM blocking that was managed by my ISP. I believe ALL your major business customers would pay to have SPAM blocked from delivery to their employees.
I really don't want to get into moral arguments on NANOG, but this one I really take issue with.
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Specificially, I feel that it is Very Very Wrong[TM] to charge people so that they don't receive messages that almost everybody agrees should not be sent to them in the first place!
If the spammers had not been allowed to run rampant for as long as they currently have (and we all know who let them do that), this would not even be considered a viable option.
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