Barry -
I did not say “obligation” - enforcement of laws is always modulated by local factors
(just look at the formal decision not to prosecute “minor” crimes in some cities) -
but rather said that police will pursue in many jurisdictions. This is particularly true
in cases where the perpetrator is still on the premises to be taken into custody.
Yes, there are indeed places in the physical world where legal recourse against a
perpetrator is becoming less likely (just as it is on the Internet); this is particularly
disappointing given that legal recourse is recognized as a basic human right.
Thanks,
/John
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On Jun 22, 2022, at 5:45 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
On June 22, 2022 at 10:35 jcurran@istaff.org (John Curran) wrote:Barry -
There is indeed a metaphor to your “rattling doorknobs", but it’s not
pretty when it comes to the Internet…
If you call the police because someone is creeping around your property
checking doors and windows for
possible entry, then they will indeed come out and attempt to arrest the
perpetrator (I am most certainly
not a lawyer, but as I understand it even the act of opening an unlocked
window or door is sufficient in many
jurisdictions to satisfy the “breaking the seal of the property” premise
One can find a lot of articles and court decisions which amount to no,the police have no such obligation despite people's strong belief thatthey do: https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales (not even if you have a restraining order against the person)etc.They do have an obligation to protect someone when they are in theircustody but that's about it.The recent behavior of the Uvalde police standing around whilechildren were being shot may not have been their proudest moment butthey violated nothing by doing so. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/uvalde-police-supreme-court/So let's try to extrapolate that to the internet and LEOs...good luck! and warrant charging under breaking
and entering statues.)
Now welcome to the Internet… paint all your windows black, remove all
lighting save for one small bulb
over your front entry. Sit back and enjoy the continuous sounds of
rattling doorknobs and scratching at
the windows.
If/when you find a digital culprit creeping around inside the home, your
best option is burn down the place
and start anew with the copies you keep offsite in storage elsewhere.
Similarly if you find a “trap” (e.g.,
a phishing email) placed on your patio or amongst your mail… discard such
cautiously and hope your
kids use equal care.
“Best practice” for handling these situations on the Internet is
effectively to cope as best you can despite
being inundated with attempts – i.e. most Internet security professionals
and law enforcement will tell you
that the idea of actually trying to identify and stop any of the culprits
involved is considered rather quaint
at best – i.e. we’re instead going to engage in the worlds longest running
game of “whack-a-mole” by just
blocking their last known website/mail server/botnet and the wishing for
the best…
Enjoy your Internet!
/John
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On 22 Jun 2022, at 12:04 AM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
When I lock the doors etc to my home I'll often mutter "ya know, if
someone is rattling my door knob I already have a big problem."
I suppose when I'm home it might give me a warning if I hear it.
There must be a metaphor in there somewhere.
I do recall as a teen noticing that one of the closed store's on the
main drag's door was unlocked late one night walking home (this was in
NYC.)
I saw a cop and told him and he scolded me angrily for rattling door
knobs, I could be arrested for that! But verified it, looked around
inside with his flashlight, and called it in.
I forget how I noticed but I wasn't in the habit of rattling stores'
door knobs, I think the door was just a bit ajar.
There must be a metaphor in there somewhere.
On June 21, 2022 at 10:01 mpalmer@hezmatt.org (Matt Palmer) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 02:18:30AM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote:
When researchers, or whoever, claim their scanning an altruistic
service,
I ask them if they would mind someone coming to their home and
trying to
open all the doors and windows every night.
If there were a few hundred people with nefarious intent trying to open
your
doors and windows every night, someone doing the same thing with
altruistic
intent might not be such a bad thing.
- Matt
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