The video is pretty good particularly where it's most pessimistic. My prediction: It might take a little more than ten years but I'll predict positive ID or you're not getting anywhere useful. And a lot of people here will loathe that. But you/we had your chance and spent most of your energy rebuking it and very little proposing and implementing any working alternative. The BIG BUCK$ (corps, govts, etc) are sick to death of the current situation and will go along with such proposals. And they have little to zero interest in the usual arguments against it. Note: I'm being predictive, what I think will happen, not prescriptive, what I want to happen. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*