Craig, I cannot see that this route should go through concentric/xara.net/xo, nor indeed that it does. Possibly something's been fixed. Tracing the route to yahoo-inc-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.102) 1 London-i2.telia.net (195.66.224.48) [AS 5459] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 2 ldn-hex-b1-srp5-0.telia.net (193.45.0.129) [AS 3301] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 3 ny-b1-pos5-1.telia.net (193.45.0.126) [AS 3301] 200 msec 100 msec 100 msec 4 ny-i5-pos0-0.telia.net (209.95.129.205) [AS 1833] 104 msec 100 msec 104 msec 5 xxx.xxx.GW1.NYC4.ALTER.NET (157.130.5.73) [AS 701] 84 msec 84 msec 88 msec 6 505.ATM3-0.XR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.22.78) [AS 701] 84 msec 84 msec 88 msec 7 288.ATM7-0.XR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.178.109) [AS 701] 84 msec 84 msec 84 msec 8 194.ATM4-0.GW4.NYC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.45) [AS 701] 84 msec 88 msec 84 msec 9 yahoo-inc-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.102) [AS 701] 88 msec * Trace from thor.europe (same network as the tunnel router) to 157.130.252.102 go through xo/concentric net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ if this meant you are using LSSR or something (for some reason) to use xo/concentric: telehouse29>trace 157.130.252.102 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to yahoo-inc-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.102) 1 gb1-0-llb-x-many.TH30.core.rtr.xara.net (194.143.163.133) [AS 5519] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 po1-0-llb-th30.HU1.core.rtr.xara.net (194.143.164.190) 68 msec 64 msec 64 msec 3 ge6-0.dist2.hud-ny.us.xo.com (64.220.3.82) [AS 2828] 68 msec 68 msec 64 msec 4 ge6-0.edge1.hud-ny.us.xo.com (64.220.3.83) [AS 2828] 68 msec 68 msec 64 msec 5 POS3-2.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET (137.39.52.1) [AS 701] 96 msec 76 msec 96 msec 6 538.at-6-0-0.XR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.23.150) [AS 701] 92 msec 76 msec 92 msec 7 280.ATM7-0.XR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.69) [AS 701] 96 msec 76 msec 76 msec 8 194.ATM4-0.GW4.NYC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.45) [AS 701] 76 msec 96 msec 76 msec 9 yahoo-inc-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.102) [AS 701] 80 msec * * -- Alex Bligh VP Core Network, XO Communications - http://www.xo.com/ (formerly Nextlink Inc, Concentric Network Corporation GX Networks, Xara Networks)