On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 03:27:49PM -0700, Michael Crapse wrote:
Customers on ps4s and xboxes will hate you. They will always get "strict" nat, and it's your fault not mega corporation X's fault for not releasing IPv4s
I think you misspelled "those console platforms' fault for being bad network citizens": "(10/13/17) As of PS4 update 5.00 no offical IPv6 support has been added." from https://community.playstation.com/content/pdc/us/en_US/pdc-communities/plays... Xbox one actually seems to DTRT: https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/ipv6-on-xbox-one Cheers! Joe
On 22 January 2018 at 15:23, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
Add to that CGN from RFC 6598 addresses (100.64/10) + IPv6 though that reaches its limit at ~4M customers.
Native IPv4 with a GUA to customers is essentially unavailable for new ISPs. It???s a matter of picking which flavour of NAT you and your customers are going to use. The sooner ALL ISP???s provide IPv6 to their customers the sooner we restore delivering the Internet to the customers.
Mark
On 23 Jan 2018, at 9:05 am, Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org> wrote:
IPv6 still solves your problem if you add any of NAT64, DS-Lite, 464xlat, MAP-T, MAP-E.
Yes, you???re NATing, but only the traffic to places like Hulu, and it will decrease over time. And while you need addresses for the outside of the translator, you don???t need as many (or to get more as frequently).
Lee
On 1/20/18, 10:20 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
It's not really scraping the bottom of the barrel if your customers are using Hulu and they're complaining because Hulu isn't responsive to fixing their problems (geo-location, v6, etc.).
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From: "Ca By" <cb.list6@gmail.com> To: "Michael Crapse" <michael@wi-fiber.io> Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 9:54:23 PM Subject: Re: Leasing /22
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:48 PM Michael Crapse <michael@wi-fiber.io> wrote:
Has Hulu, or a thousand other content distributors considered IPv6? Because you can't even tunnel to ipv4 without setting off VPN alarms with HULU.
Hulu? Really scraping the bottom of the barrel of content providers that dont use ipv6 these days.
Netflix and Youtube support v6 ... and thousand of others (thousands just on Cloudflare where v6 is default on)
About 80% of my traffic is native e2e v6, mostly google / youtube / fb / netflix / apple / amazon ??? but your mix may vary.
On 19 January 2018 at 18:38, Andrew Kirch <trelane@trelane.net> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:59 PM Ryan Gard <ryangard@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're on the hunt yet again for an additional /22 to lease, and are > wondering what the best options are out there? > > Our usual suspects that we've reached out to in the past seem to be plum > out... Any recommendations? > > Thanks! > > -- > Ryan Gard > Have you considered IPv6?
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