rja asks: | smd, are you able to get diverse local paths over there ? ^^^^^ Ironically, Jesper Skriver (on your To: line) is as close to my "here" as just about anyone else on the list, and is working for a rather large provider of local loops, so I wouldn't discount his answer just because he's not me. :-) I would comment further, but I lack sufficient bandwidth in the absence of my slightly delayed DSL to be able to type it out... Sean. P.S.: Isn't it cool that none of us is using an address which in any way informs a person who didn't already know, who it is that we work for? P.P.S.: More useful answer: yes, in some places in Europe, but not everywhere. Where possible, pricing and amount of work necessary are non-uniform.