I recently cancelled a circuit with them that began life as transit and converted to P2P, where the BGP fee never disappeared, and had been fighting them on it for eight months. Now that the circuit is gone they've switched to completely ignore mode. So, not likely I'll use them again. I did the initial conversion because I got tired of customers with Google IPv6 issues and fortunately had a P2P need it could satisfy for a bit of time. On 3/31/22, 11:40 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Laura Smith via NANOG" <nanog-bounces+dhubbard=dino.hostasaurus.com@nanog.org on behalf of nanog@nanog.org> wrote: Hmmm.... Spring has sprung and the waft of drivel from a new season Cogent salesdroid filled my telephone earpiece today. I've never liked the Cogent way of business and my understanding of their IP transit is that it falls into the "cheap for a reason" category. However, perhaps someone would care to elaborate (either on or off-list) what the deal is with the requirement to sign NDAs with Cogent before they'll discuss things like why they still charge for BGP, or indeed any other technical or pricing matters. Seems weird ?!? Laura