I think that AUPs issued by each ISP, but with some common elements are very important. If we can agree on the common elements that would be a start. The next step would be for the big providers to include these common elements in their contracts. My lawyer tells me that the best way for me to avoid being in the middle is to pass these contractual responsibilities along in the form of our AUP. We do that. I suspect that others would too. I'm not too worried about enforcability at this point. I think there are two issues here. One is more or less a code of good conduct. The other is what to do when people don't follow the code. At this stage I'd be happy if we could just inform people what acceptable conduct is. We can figure out what to do about people who don't play along later. -Jeff Ogden Merit/MichNet