There are several obstacles to overcome, IMHO 1. The companies at the mid size and smaller levels have to invest in newer equipment that handles IPV6. 2. The network Admins at the above mentioned companies need to learn IPV6, most will want there company to pay the bill for this. 3. The vendors that make said equipment should lower the cost of said equipment to prompt said companies into purchasing said equipment. There is a huge difference between IPV4 and IPV6 and there will be a lot of network admins that simply do not want to learn or change there network. Thank You Edward Arthurs Manager of Network Installations Legacy Inmate Communications Legacy Contact Center Legacy Long Distance Intl. Inc 10833 Valley View Street Suite 150 Cypress, California 90630-5040 Office 1-800-577-5534 ext. 207 Direct 1-800-956-1595 Fax 1-714-827-7545 E-Mail: earthurs@legacyinmate.com E-Mail: legacyinstall@gmail.com This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client or other privilege. If you received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your system without copying it and notify sender by reply e-mail, so that our records can be corrected. No trees were harmed as a result of this e-mail; however, many electrons were severely inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:02 PM To: Owen DeLong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion In message <E6F570A1-3911-437F-897F-81CB569377C1@delong.com>, Owen DeLong write s:
=20 However, I also don't think consumer education is the answer: http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/consumeraction.htm Summary: Until it is perfectly clear why a consumer needs IPv6, and = what they need to do about it, consumer education will only cause fear and frustration, which will not be helpful. This is a technology problem, = not a feature problem, and consumers shouldn't have to select which = Internet to be on. =20 Lee =20
Short of consumer education, how do you expect to resolve the issue = where $CONSUMER walks into $BIG_BOX_CE_STORE and says "I need a router, = what's the cheapest one you have?"
Whereupon $TEENAGER_MAKING_MINIMUM_WAGE who likely doesn't know DOCSIS 2 = from DOCSIS 3, has no idea what IP actually is, and thinks that Data is = an android from Star Trek says "Here, this Linksys thing is only $30."
Unless/until we either get the stores to pull the IPv4-only stuff off = their shelves or educate consumers, the continued deployment of = additional incapable equipment will be a continuing problem. As bad as = the situation is for cablemodems and residential gateways, at least = there, an educated consumer can make a good choice. Now, consider DVRs, = BluRay players, Receiver/Amplifiers, Televisions, etc. where there are, = currently, no IPv6 capable choices available to the best of my = knowledge.
Owen
IPv6 is out there but you only seem get it in the quad radio boxes along with the corresponding price tag. We are already seeing reports of consumers complaining because they can't get a unshared IPv4 address when they move providers from DSL to Fibre and it breaks what they were doing on the DSL line. In this case it was DS-Lite providing the shared address but CGN or NAT64+DNS64 would also be a problem. The NAS box was no longer reachable because the other side was IPv4 only. I suspect this is the start of a long line of complaints because ISP's have been too slow in delivering IPv6 to *everyone* so that people are isolated from each other protocol wise. Note it is not like you have not been told for years that this day is coming. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org