Gary - It is unclear if/when such an outcome will occur, but the potential of such an endstate highlights the importance of being involved in governance activities of one (or more) of the community-based RIR organizations – as a preparatory measure should such a change occur in the future. Note that there is a near-universal expectation of governments that forbearance of public regulation (due to industry self-regulation) is only warranted when the private alternative covers all of those engaged in similar business, so your expressed trajectory has a sound basis. Best wishes (& Happy Holidays!), /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers On Nov 22, 2023, at 10:02 PM, Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com> wrote: On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:14 PM William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote: It still seems unwise, but not entirely insane. I would expect that at some point in the future that many/all of the major players will require RIR validated routing information, and whether that is due to regulation or best practices for which the majors will not want to become liable for ignoring (and "think of the children") is hard to know. In the end I suspect we are likely just trying to discern when that date will be, not the eventual end result ("not today" is not, really, a valid target goal).