I have been looking for a sub 5K router on the used market to support around 30-50 megs peak traffic. I have found the 7507/7513 but these things appear to have been manufactured in 1995 ! Then there is the 7206 and the 7206 VXR - I guess the 7206 itself is just as old as the 7507 and 7513 and the same price at the least - perhaps because of its form factor. The 7206 VXR makes me feel a little better - as it was manufactured in 1999? We are looking at a pure Ethernet environment - but with the desire to support a lot of value added services - such as IPSEC, VoIP, traffic accounting. Cisco's have traditionally been good at PRI and T-1 and T-3 type interfaces - which we don't really need -which leads me to think Foundry might be an option. Juniper appears to be at least 7,000.00 - and I am worried about support - based on other articles I have seen. So the question is would a layer 3 switch be a good idea with a lot of memory - for example the Cat 6509 ? Perhaps foundry BigIron with Jetware ? Please give me your thoughts - it is hard to believe that the 7507 and 7513 are my best options.... Alexander Hagen Etheric Networks Incorporated, A California Corporation 527 Sixth Street No 371261 Montara CA 94037 Main Line: (650)-728-3375 Direct Line: (650) 728-3086 Cell: (650) 740-0650 (Does not work at our office in Montara) Home: (Emgcy or weekends) 650-728-5820 fax: (650) 240-1750 http://www.etheric.net