What are we to do when in the middle of $$$ goldrush we essentially have the internet composed of groups that other than keeping it operating share very little in the way of common motivations and goals? With the CIX I have seen a recognition of a need to change and some new directions floated. Yet I have seen nothing to suggest that the organizations policy has really reached outside that of ithe organizations of its board members. Last time I looked at the CIX web they touted about 200 members....all in a nice single list with no distinction of how many had paid the $7,500 price of membership as opposed to the new and minimal $1,000. I believe that internet business model issues will be critical next year. Starting with quality of service issues that hans Werner has written about here and going on to issue of traffic or route based settlements, and fall out from CIDR routing issues, there are straws in the wind that could make 1996 a year of crunch by the largest two dozen ISPs against the rest. I perceive Tim's call as being directed at the rest..... most of which are too busy trying to figure out how to cost effectively serve new customers than to organize. I hear rumblings about a new world federation of internet groups. Sounds good to me. Cause with the RBOCs and Cable banging at the door, ISOC fumbling just as badly as the CIX, people suggesting that the IETF needs to incorporate but no one there finding time to do it, I sure do wonder who and/or what will ever manage to preserve and protect the internet vision? ******************************************************************** Gordon Cook, Editor & Publisher Subscript.: Individ-ascii $85 The COOK Report on Internet Non Profit. $150 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 Small Corp & Gov't $200 (609) 882-2572 Corporate $350 Internet: cook@cookreport.com Corporate. Site Lic $650 Newly expanded COOK Report Web Pages http://pobox.com/cook/ ********************************************************************