Hi, in the case I mentioned, the datacenter provider (=Level3) removed hand geometry scanners from its facility and switched all users to card + pin. Also the provider is going to run this policy Germany- or even Europe-wide, as being told by Level3 account rep. The mentioned facility does not have any tailgating prevention, e.g. a mantrap or turnstile access. The outside door, which is visible from the street, and the inside colocation doors are now sharing the same access method (card + pin). So now the card becomes valuable and transferable. Before it was: Parking lot: Card, Outside door: Card + pin, Inside door: Card + hand. There is a security sub-sub-contractor on this site, but they are not responsible for access or any thing real :-], thats why I am interested how Level3 runs its others facility and I am still looking for feedback. From contract side the access device is not exactly defined, hence you can accept, quit end of term or of course upgrade your suites, racks, … with a custom solution, as long as Level3 staff can enter, too. To bring things back to the biometric topic: The hand geometry scanner does not save fingerprints but hand sizes and shapes. From current mailings I understand, that people have a lot of different definition of biometric and may not count the hand scanner as "(full?) biometric" device. Regards "bionic" Jörg On 13 Oct 2017, at 13:03, Alain Hebert wrote:
Odd,
1. captcha(?)
In my millennia of experience I never saw a captcha used as a mean for DC access control. Just as a programmatic way to reduce brute force for some website functions.
On my network janitor keychain I have (in order of hackability from easiest to hardest)
1. keycard only
2. keycard + fingerprints
3. keycard + face (2d)
4a. keycard + eye
4b. keycard + top of hand mapping
But all the DCs, I deal with, have highrez cameras and tailgating controls... Biometrics are just a part of a wider system.
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On 10/12/17 16:58, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
If the current best operating practice is to avoid biometrics, why are they still in use out here? (1) for the same reason some idiots still use captchas (2) new hotness > old and busted, regardless of merits (3) because they facilitate coerced risk transference away from the
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 05:04:08PM -0400, Ken Chase wrote: people who are actually responsible (and are paid to be so) to the people who shouldn't be responsible (and aren't paid to be)
---rsk