At 11:57 AM -0500 1/5/97, JDF (J.D. Falk) wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Randy Bush wrote:
Well, it's not really an Ops problem. Ops folk worry about packets and stuff like that, not social and legal issues such as this. Within organizations such as Sprint, they're usually not empowered to take the kinds of actions you want.
I hate to continue this argument (perhaps we should all move it over to isp-admin-list@aol.com, which is a good place for real admin types to discuss these types of issues), but I have to disagree -- just as with a standard pingflood, the intent is irrelevant, the flood must be stopped. A very good case could be made that isp-inter.net is slowly packetflooding world.std.com on port 25.
I don't want, either, to get into the ethics of spam or carrier responsibilities. Traffic and congestion issues, however, are another matter. I received yet another cyberpromo spam this morning, that contains a specific threat of retaliatory mailbombing -- IF CYBERPROMO'S _SOFTWARE_ decides a response is a flame. I've not included message headers and such to avoid making this a spam issue, althought I would note there is a bogus source, and headers make it appear it is being relayed through ibm.net. Think about it if this cyberpromo threat is real. What if several people respond with flames? What is the potential for congestion if this escalates? Howard ********* quoted from cyberpromo ********* To keep up with the respect of internet users who wish their names removed from Noci Marketing's emailing list, simply mail to: noci@cyberpromo.com and type "remove" in the subject field or message body. It's that simple. NOTE TO FLAMERS:DON'T DO IT! We will comply with and respect all REMOVE requests, but if we are flamed we will (a) FLAME YOU 1000 times as much (b)email to 3 million people a questionable item with your return email address. We want respect as much as anyone else, so if you give it, you shall receive it. ... ADDITIONAL INFO ON FABAO????-- (AOL MEMBERS... go to keyword: preferredmail and turn off preferred mail or AOL will block the answer to your question and it will not go through) SEND QUESTIONS TO noci@cyberpromo.com-put "PDG" in subject header, and ask away in the message body. Your message will be forwarded to Cybergen Health, but will be filtered for questionable content and size(max. 5K), and if it does not comply with our acceptable usage, our software will IMMEDIATELY and AUTOMATICALLY proceed to implement the remedies described above. ****---