JP> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:42:41 -0400 JP> From: Pawlukiewicz Jane JP> Why do you think I joined this group? very smart man. In all seriousness, one has the basics like traceroute, ping, route servers, looking glasses, et cetera. However, those tools only give a view from a certain point or along a path... they provide a limited cross-section of a complex N-dimensional beast. Bill was right: Sean Donelan's posts are very handy. And I was only halfway being a smart-aleck... if one deduces that there just _has_ to be something anomalous, posting to NANOG is an amusingly low-tech "distributed layer-9" diagnostic. Note that I'm assuming you refer to internetwork diagnostics. If you seek intranetwork diagnostics, one has SNMP and other tools. -- Eddy Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) From: A Trap <blacklist@brics.com> To: blacklist@brics.com Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. Do NOT send mail to <blacklist@brics.com>, or you are likely to be blocked.