Re: links on the blink (fwd)

Mike, Well, when it comes to evidence, traceroute does a pretty good job of identifying probable loss points. Perhaps I shouldn't reveal this tool, since it may result in action to disable the necessary router features. Meanwhile, I'm sure that HWB will confirm numerous instances where causual NTP servers have detected subtle problems on the links between them and that were undetected by any other means, including SNMP. Therefore, I can detect with some degree of confidence that some j-random provider is losing x percent of my packets between the y and z demarcations of their network. Dave