At 02:02 AM 3/3/2018, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Mar 2, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Matt Harris <matt@netfire.net> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com <mailto:owen@delong.com>> wrote: Sure You have to maintain the tunnel or they may reassign/reallocate the address. Hereâs the reality of that, however:
1. Unless you care about reaching the customer they reassigned it to from your network, you donât care. 2. Using it for ULA in addition to the tunnel isnât really prohibited by that. Itâs a gray area, Iâll admit. 3. Sure, they can cancel the service at any time, but you get what you pay for. It saves you $100/year while it lasts.
Owen
I'm not sure where you're getting the $100 figure from, ARIN's minimum fee for an allocation is $250/year (for a /40 or smaller block) on top of membership fees of $500/yr, so that's $750/yr to get a /48 from the North American RIR (which is the only one I'm looking at today given that the context is the nanog list). Additionally, tunnel providers can and have shut down permanently at random - SixXS was among the largest providers, and they shut down operations entirely last year. So any folks using space from them had to renumber, either on to another tunnel provider's space, or to ULA. Re-numbering has associated costs, which in the case we're pointing to here, could've been saved had they deployed on ULA space instead.
You donât need an allocation. Get an assignment.
Owen
Petition the RIR's (and IETF?) to set up a HE like service for 'micro' end-users? Self-registration and $4.99/year gets you a pseudo-GUA /48 to keep forever but currently understood as not accepted by your ISP. Some day maybe there will be an efficient way to provide global reachability. Dave B.