Well, after all this, can we then get say to a point where we define like engineering guidelines. This exists in machine engineering and everywhere else. It would mean that certain types of access shouldbe designed in a certain manner, and also explain why and what the impacts are (see my earlier post, yes, everybody knows how to do this). There are more points, not only this one: proxy agg, as path manipulation etc. This way a provider has at least the chance to check if his design is 'within the normal and customary'. Since these things are no corporate secrets, how about giving it a corner on the merit web sites? I still maintain that public complaint about something that is between providers, without (this is the point) constructive proposal of a solution, is public whining. Well, you all seem to accept and like this, we all have our views. Mike On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Dave Siegel wrote:
Can we stop this bashing right here, Sean? I don't believe that this list is the adequate forum four such childish behaviour. I have a collection of your past emails and I am rather fed up withthis.
Can Sean be removed from the list? These are not contributions in any sense of constructivity at all.
I disagree.
When the traditional channels don't work, sometimes publicity is the only thing to cause a company to pay attention.
Do not underestimate the value of peer pressure. We all have to resort to it at one point or another.
Furthermore, Sean has contributed many construtive posts to this list in the onslaught of arguments.
Let's not call the kettle black.
Dave
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