On 5/14/10 2:36 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
Being that there's issues that leave us unable to get native connectivity, we have a BGP tunnel thanks to HE (with a 20ms latency from Seattle to Freemont).
You should be able to get native IPv6 in Seattle from a variety of providers. If you're not finding it, you're not really looking (IMHO).
I can almost guarantee that noone can give us the level of service we get for the price we do - did an awful lot of research back in 2008 to find a new co-loc. We've also had nearly perfect uptime with the only downtime being caused by our own growing pains with equipment that has obsecure bugs relating to ipv4 and ipv6 BGP interactions. Changing providers isn't really an option for us as alternatives are guaranteed to push us over budget. $$$$ is a limiting factor for us since we're not a business focused on profit. Tunneling is our only option at this point.
Tunnels suck if not done correctly. We sometimes have faster and more reliable connections through IPv6, so ymmv.
The tunneled part of the "IPv6" internet fell to the wayside a long time ago, there are stragglers and I have even seen people try to peer over tunnels in 2010, but anyone still adding that level of overlay (v6-over-v4) may find themselves in a world of hurt soon enough.
I'm willing to run the risk that my tunneled connection may have problems - its part of the game of being on the leading edge. <rant> This is not directed at anyone in particular, but people forget that not everyone has thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, etc of money in their budget to accomplish their goals. There are people out there, such as ourselves, that have a very limited budget to work within each month/year. Some of us do what we do out of our own pockets because we like doing it. For example, people have called me crazy for running P3 and P4 era HP DL360/380s instead of the new generation stuff, but those nice new servers cost serious coin, and I don't see people stepping up to fund these upgrades. Just an observation, but I'm fairly sure that I'm not the only one who feels that those with rather high budgets tend to forget that not everyone has the luxury of a virtual blank check. </rant> -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org