Ahem, ] Remember, the goal here is to get the registry to limit the number ] of blocks allocated. Then, provide a method to require those ] blocks to remain in one piece. I doubt that many people are going to not ] react to a note such as the following: (maybe a little less technical) ] [bureaucratia deleted] Running to the registries to save us is silly, silly, silly, and dumb. So many folx seem to coalesce all arguments into bureacratic governmental intervention. Several obvfacts: + We're not regulated. + The NSPs talk to each other because they want to. + People that want global connectivity choose their own NSP. + Our (at least USA's) "Internet" is capitalist. Accepting these assumptions leads to a simple conclusion: The NSPs have the power. When MCI, SL, UU, PSI, Digex, GI start enforcing a hierarchal CIDR announcement policy that *has no grandfather clause*, we will learn that our Internet model pushes away the next hurdle. The next hurdle of course calls for new technology. I'm reminded of Einstein's quote paraphrased, problems of today cannot be solved with today's thinking. Don't waste your time diddling amongst each other on this mail list about how the registries ought to be more forceful, or how the feel-good net.citizens ought 'do their part' and be communist^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H 'sacrifice for the good of the whole'. Tell your upstream that outages based on routing table issues are not acceptable. If they don't get their act together, please pull out your service contract... You'll find a clause in your contract for 'unacceptable service'. Exercise it. We've got one in each of our contracts, as do our downstreams. We're this close to exercising one of these options on our upstream, and it's rather ironic that they've voices who most agree w/ me, although they blame all their problems on the other bad people who don't aggregate. More /19 business, Sean, only go deeper. Make the lazy hurt. Most people on the net right now are just dazed sheep. Put the fences up and herd them towards dynamic numbering and proactive planning, but don't look to the governmental agencies. They've given us Velcro and internetworking, let's leave good enough alone. -alan