On 5/30/20 11:58 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
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On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 21:55, Constantine A. Murenin <mureninc@gmail.com> wrote:
When you're not paying for service, you're not the customer, you're the product.
I don't understand why anyone, especially anyone frequenting NANOG, would use Cloudflare for their DNS.
[promised myself I wouldn't get pulled off into any smoldering flamewars]
[oh well. fools rush in &c &c &c] Actually I used to run a caching-only nameserver using bind, as well as my own email server using sendmail, behind an ipchains/iptables firewall on a Linux box that was also running snort. This would have been about (counts fingers; toes) maybe 1998-99. So I have done this for myself, thank-you-very-much. Times are a little more complicated now and I've come to want my own personal life to be a little simpler, again, thank-you-very-much. Then (or finally) not to be pedantic, but I did open with:
FULL DISCLOSURE: this is an end-user issue, but one that might have some operational relevance, particularly if anyone from Cloudflare DNS is on the list
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