"Clearly" many companies have found that 'outsourcing dialup adds a layer of necessary security to the mail server', so instead of just opening their mail servers to the world, they have found a cost of doing business that way is a slight inconvenience in the way mail is sent, either via POP-before-SMTP, or via having the user use their local dialup's SMTP server. TANSTAAFL, Dean. You want the cheap convenience of outsourced dialup, the price is that securing the mail server requires a little effort. If you don't want that hassle, then you put in your own dialups. This is not quantum physics, this is simply a cheaper solution not necessarily being an EASIER solution. You want Cheap and Easy which doesn't happen. D At 5:15 PM -0500 1/9/00, Dean Anderson wrote:
Around 05:28 PM 1/8/2000 -0800, rumor has it that Owen DeLong said:
Noone has disputed that relays are necessary.
I am as yet unconvinced that open relays are necessary.
Thats nonsensical. Clearly, if one is going to offer outsourced services for which relays are necessary, one must operate open relays.
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