On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:01 PM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:

I think it would be absolutely *stunning* for content providers 

to turn the model on its head; use a bittorrent like model for 

caching and serving content out of subscribers homes at 

recalcitrant ISPs, so that data doesn't come from outside, 

it comes out of the mesh within the eyeball network, with 

no clear place for the ISP to stick a $$$ bill to.

I'm familiar with some work and ideas that have gone into such a thing, and I'm personally very much against it for non-technical reasons. 

Given how far the law lags behind technology, the last thing anyone should be ok with is a 3rd party storing bits on ANYTHING in their house, or transmitting those bits from a network connection that is registered to them.

*chortle*

So, I take it you steadfastly block *all* cookies from being stored 

or transmitted from your browser at home? 

Oh, wait.  You meant it's OK to let some third parties 

store and transmit bits from your devices, but only 

the ones you like and support, and as long as they're 

small bits, and you're sure there's nothing harmful or 

illegal in them. 

So, that means you check each cookie to make sure 

there's nothing in them that could be illegal?  

You sure someone hasn't tucked something like 

the DeCSS algorithm, or the RSA algorithm into 

a cookie in your browser, like this? 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Munitions_T-shirt_(front).jpg

https://www.cafepress.com/+,954530397?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=pla-google&utm_campaign=7979505756-d-c&utm_content=83814261273-adid-395151690662&utm_term=pla-1396845372217-pid-954530397&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5JSLBhCxARIsAHgO2SeM10JbFgeus96hEedn0d0m2Kkz6Z91-frlEIUh-3ZD2w89j8EUmCsaAvnAEALw_wcB

The fact of the matter is, every one of us allows 

third parties to store data on all our devices, all 

the time, and send it back out on the network, 

completely unsupervised by us, even though 

it could contain data which is illegal to cross 

certain arbitrary political boundaries. 

I understand where you're coming from, I really 

do. 

But I don't think people stop and think about just 

how completely that ship has sailed, from a legal 

standpoint.  You could have been asked by a random 

website to store code which is illegal to export in a 

cookie which is then offered back up to any other 

website in whatever jurisdiction around the globe 

that asks for it, and you'll be completely unaware 

of it, because we've all gotten past the point of "ask 

me about every cookie" being a workable setting on 

any of our devices.

Go ahead.  Turn off all cookie support on all your devices 

for 24 hours.  Don't let any of that third party data in or out 

of your home during that time. 

Let me know how well that turns out. 

Bonus points if you enforce it on your family/spouse/SO/partner 

at the same time, and they're still talking to you at the end of the 

24 hours.  ;-P 

Matt