Joseph, To make a fair comparison between your 7500 and your new GRF, are you going to configure your 7500 to be comparable? Put an RSP4, VIP2-40 interface processors, and CEF code (otherwise known as distributed FIB) into the 7500 to make it fair. You'll see what a modern 7500 can REALLY do. Cisco has made quite a few advancements/modifications to the original 7500 over the past two years, a fact that seems to have escaped the folks at the Tolly Group. The more interesting data published by the Tolly report clearly indicates that the GRF has a LONG way to go to meet the performance objectives described in Ascend's product literature. Compare the numbers yourself. -rb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com