Did I miss some discussion about the Beer and Gear surprise? I, personally, feel somewhat cheated that there was no "gear" available from the vendors in attendance. If I had known that there was to be no freebees, I certainly could have went to dinner early and not hung around to look at equipment that I already have seen directly from the vendors. I did not spend money to come out to Atlanta to get hit upon by vendors. If I had wanted to look at vendors, I could have went to some other conferences and spent more time looking at equipment that I won't be recommending for deployment. Without some freebees to draw the nanog conference attendees to the vendors, I don't even see the point of continuing to have the the Beer and Gear part. I have found this on the web site: "In striving to achieve these goals, all tutorials and presentations, including BOF presentations, are reviewed in advance and are limited to those entirely of a general technical nature, explicitly prohibiting material that relates to any specific product or service offerings. For similar reasons, equipment exhibits are limited to the "Beer 'n Gear" sessions, and vendor giveaways are not permitted at any time during the meeting." I'm not sure if there was a vote of the membership, or what, but I had certainly missed it. Does anyone have more information on this? UK --- Opinions in this email are the personal opinions of the author and are not associated with author's employer. This email account is a not the regular email account of the author and is being used for the protection of the employer. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com