On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
As for calling ICANN stupid, thinking this will help fracture the 'Net, I think you are all confused. I think the NANOG community has become (OK, always was) a bit of an echo chamber. Trust me when I say we are the minority. Most people think very differently, and we better accept that if we hope to affect things outside our little group.
We may be the minority, but my experience is we have a pretty good record at spotting where the pinch points might come up in proposed expansions/ changes.
http://apple/ is going to break a bunch of shit.
(Ok, it might or might not break actual browsers, but I have seen "require at least one dot or assume it's not a domain name" in *lots* of code; the inability to put sjobs@apple in your address book will not be popular.)
All fully qualified domain names have a trailing dot so that you know where the root is. At least as parsed internally by your resolver... :~ jjaeggli$ dig com ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26972 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;com. IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: com. 705 IN SOA a.gtld-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1308361302 1800 900 604800 86400 ;; Query time: 257 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.46.1#53(192.168.46.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Jun 17 18:45:34 2011 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 94 yeah code based on faulty assumptions is going to break, it generally does... one semi-related anecdote, Last time I ran an ietf meeting that did dynamic dns registration (circa 2005), some people discovered the corprate firewalls would let them in if the reverse entry for their ip address was in the form host.domain.meeting.ietf.org, clearly that's really hard to subvert.
Interstate-level traffic engineering types are not a big political bloc, either... but no one ignores them when building Interstates.
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274