On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Franck Martin wrote:
The biggest complaint that I hear from ISPs, is that their upstream ISP does not support IPv6 or will not provide them with a native IPv6 circuit.
Is that bull?
I thought the whole backbone is IPv6 now, and it is only the residential ISPs that are still figuring it out because CPE are still not there yet.
Where can I get more information? Any list of peering ISPs that have IPv6 as part of their products?
It seems to me the typical answer sales people say when asked about IPv6: "Gosh, this is the first time I'm asked this one".
I can provide anecdotal feedback on this. When we did v6 on our network - we did it to full v4 parity. I.e. if we offer v4 / HSRP redundancy / BGP full table, etc in a given site, we need to be able to do the same with v6. We acheived that. At this point I had a decent v6 network, but was isolated from the world. I had to talk to upstreams. In a nutshell, it was non-trivial. The upstreams in question will remain nameless to protect the guilty, but they are all who some would call 'tier 1'. The common themes were: - Hmm, don't know our process for that, let me send emails and 'reach out' and get back to you. - We can do it, but we have to home you to a different router. This will be a provisioning exercise and you will get new /30 (/126, etc) and new circuit ID. So it was far from simply adding v6 to our existing circuit(s) and another BGP session. It has taken months. I couldn't quite wait that long so I did a tunnel w/ BGP to Hurricane and got it up in a matter of days. At that point, at least I could traceroute somewhere :) We are just now finishing up getting native on our transit circuits. -- Brandon Applegate - CCIE 10273 PGP Key fingerprint: 7407 DC86 AA7B A57F 62D1 A715 3C63 66A1 181E 6996 "SH1-0151. This is the serial number, of our orbital gun."