Hey folks, can you please stop the CC'ing of people that have responded to this thread. Just reply to NANOG. On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:36:50AM -0500, joshua sahala wrote:
"Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy@knowtion.net> wrote:
A willingness, nay - a NEED, to learn and be open to new concepts is what forward moving technology sectors (like ours I hope) need.
definately - however, i know of some very smart people, with a huge drive to learn, were relegated to clueless tasks because they didn't have many many years of experience. there is a distrubing trend amongst managers/etc where they think that if you haven't already done the job for several years, you can't learn to do it, or don't have the skill to do it. i am not saying that this is universal (as demonstrated by several posts here to that effect), but i think that these are exceptions
Acronyms mean sh*t. When involved in any hiring process, I actively avoid CCIE/MSCE/etc. laden resumes. Mentioning once, fine. Using them like religious phrases is an indictation of, well, stupidity.
certifications are often necessary to open the door - granted if you were architecting internetworks when many of today's certified 'engineers' were still in grade school, then no, certifications are probably not needed.
experience is a catch-22, you need experience to get a job, but you need a job to get experience. i am not saying that certifications are a panacea, but lacking the ability to say that i built $major_isp, my certs have helped me (a little) in getting past the recruiter/hr to where my technical skills can be demonstrated
i'm recruiter-proof. i'm not sure i'd want anyone who wasn't.
Aye. I have *never* used my CV/Resume in getting a job. I still have one, but it's very out of date.
never is a long time
perhaps it is just the fact that i am 'new' to the field, but my resume has gotten me all but one job, and my resume indirectly got me that one.
my slightly bitter $0.02
/joshua
Peter
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