Halleluljah. A voice of knowledge as opposed to conjecture. Different bank ATMs operate differently. There are online and offline modes. The PIN may or may not be recorded on the card. Some of these differences are due to the fact that not all financial institutions were connected to interbank networks over two decades ago. And yes, some banks' ATMs dispense limited amounts of cash while disconnected from the network. This is a compromise between customer service and fraud exposure. You won't be able to get rich that way. There are plenty of resources on and offline related to magnetic stripe cryptographic security and PIN verification methods such as Atalla Identikey, Visa PW, IBM 3624, etc. Those making the most noise should take a look at their own network security, data security, and redundancy practices as they rail against large financial networks and systems. Regards, Sharif --- "Whenever I'm caught between two evils, I take the one I've never tried." - Mae West On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:15:54 -0600, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:35:37AM -0800, Al Rowland wrote:
The PIN is on your card, likely encrypted,
We're off-topic now, so I won't go into detail, but the PIN is sometimes on the card and sometimes not. There are different ways
of
doing it. (If the sampling of cards in my wallet is representative, then mostly, the PINs aren't on the card anymore (I still have one card that has the PIN on the card).)
-- Brett