Actually the resell sbc primarily. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Matthew Black" <black@csulb.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:31:42 To: Etaoin Shrdlu<shrdlu@deaddrop.org>; <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:10:33 -0800 Etaoin Shrdlu <shrdlu@deaddrop.org> wrote:
Matthew Black wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:51:41 -0800 "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb@byrneit.net> wrote:
Cox Communications has fully on-shore support. Here in SD they are actually LOCAL.
In Verizon land, residential customers do not have CLEC voice or DSL alternatives. We do not have Cox. Our area is served by Charter Communications who has the broadband cable monopoly. Verizon has the fiber monopoly with their FIOS. AT&T fiber is not possible in Verizon land. Nobody competes against Verizon for residential service in Southern California.
Sir, both COVAD and DSLExtreme beg to differ. Seriously. I just checked.
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Going through COVAD's interactive DSL chooser, there are no options for RESIDENTIAL service. <http://covad.com/web/index.html> DSLextreme is charging a higher price than Verizon and I suspect they are simply reselling Verizon's DSL rather than connecting my copper to their network. That's hardly what I consider CLEC service. I could be wrong and would switch if I could. But I don't see them offering voice and that's why I conclude they are reselling Verizon's DSL service. matthew black california state university, long beach