I was not and will not ever point default to anyone. I am transit free, and have no need to point default to UUNet or anyone else. Nathan Stratton President, CTO, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength. - Psalm 33:16 On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Avi Freedman wrote:
On Sep 11, 21:15, Avi Freedman <freedman@netaxs.com> wrote:
them. (eunet defaulting into uunet is OK
Huhh?
My most sincere apologies. I meant to say *pipex* but I had a brain-o (not a typo, where your fingers type the wrong thing but you should know better; a brain-o is when your brain knows the right party but says the wrong thing).
Randy has suggested that I put the whole mess online, for MAE-East at least - but it amounts to a peering matrix as well as a funniness detector, and some have invoked "what if the marketing people use it to say so-and-so-sucks-because-they-don't-peer-with-so-and-so-else".
I'll take an opinion count @ NANOG next month...
------ ___ --- Per G. Bilse, Director Network Eng & Ops ----- / / / __ ___ _/_ ---- EUnet Communications Services B.V.
Anyway, very sorry...
Here is a partial list of the default violations of April 22, 1996's run: At the time UUNET said that pipex had permission... As I look at it, 192.41.177.90 might be someone else now. Pipex's mae routers might not be online any more. ins.net is still defaulting into uunet now, and as I recall they had permission as well:
----------------------- mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 3.4.5.6 255.255.255.255 192.41.177.112 mae-netaxs(config)#end mae-netaxs#trace 3.4.5.6
1 192.41.177.112 [AS 1800] 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec 2 192.41.177.249 [AS 1800] 12 msec 20 msec 4 msec 3 * * -----------------------
Again, sorry for the pipex/eunet confusion.
Avi
-------- -------- below is a snip from the 4/22/96 mae-mapper run --------
-------------------- to nowhere through [mae-east-gw.pol.net]
trace 3.4.5.6
Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
1 mae-east-gw.pol.net (192.41.177.90) [AS 3491] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec 2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (137.39.127.1) [AS 701] 156 msec 204 msec 208 msec 3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (137.39.127.1) [AS 701] !H * !H
-------------------- to nowhere through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net]
trace 3.4.5.6
Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec 2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec 3 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] !H !H !H
-------------------- to nowhere through [maeegw1.us.insnet.net]
trace 3.4.5.6
Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
1 maeegw1.us.insnet.net (192.41.177.112) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec 2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] !H * *
-------------------- to nowhere through [was-gw1.pipex.net]
trace 3.4.5.6
Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
1 was-gw1.pipex.net (192.41.177.190) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec 2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec 3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] !H * !H
-------------------- to nowhere through [(unknown)]
trace 3.4.5.6
Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
1 192.41.177.191 [AS 3491] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec 2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec 3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] !H * *