Good Afternoon! I'd like to apologize for the inconsiderate statement I made this morning. It was unecessary and uncalled for. I should've said it like Eric Gauthier and Petri Helenius did. Nicely. I deal with these things everyday on my network and was just shocked that any part of a network would be purposely shutdown for an hour and a half to solve an issue that simple operational (rate-limiting, MRTG, etc, etc) practices would've prevented. That is, if the article was even accurate. It was uncalled for and I apologize to the list members. scott On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Scott Weeks wrote: : On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Sean Donelan wrote: : : : As NANOG has experienced during the last several meetings, in any network : : used by a large number of people, there will be a certain percentage of : : people which bring infected computers into the network. : : : : http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/29/technology/circuits/29bost.html?pagewanted... : : Wiring a Convention, Version 2004 : : By SETH SCHIESEL : : Published: July 29, 2004 : : [...] : : But data services have not been as solid. Many news organizations : : suffered intermittent breakdowns in Internet service, and on Tuesday : : evening the main press pavilion was offline for about 90 minutes. A : : spokesman for Verizon said the company deliberately caused the : : interruption as part of an effort to root out a more deep-seated : : network problem, which the company said appeared to have been caused by : : a virus carried by network devices provided by news organizations. In : : the interim, a handful of data lines provided by other companies, : : including AT&T, served as a backup. : : : : A buncha technically clueless newsgeeks brought infected micro$loth : computers into a convention? Shocking! What's this world coming to??? : Sounds like Verizon hired low-end netgeeks if they had to bring the : network down to find these infected computers. : : tisk-tisk-tisk Verizon. MCSE != good netgeek In fact, almost all the : time, the two are mutually exclusive, disjoint sets of people... : : :-) : scott : :