I don't think people upgrade anymore to 98, but at least to XP (if they do now, at the end of next year will be doing to Vista). I don't think either all the corporations take so long as 2 years to upgrade. Of course, I don't have concrete logs to show on anything of this, but is not marketing just personal view based on experience with customers ;-) By the way, if we start requiring logs for any comment that we do in this list, then it may happen that the list is not so useful. I disagree also that IPv6 is painful for the consumer, on the other way around. Today they need to look into manuals for configuring STBs and other devices. Most of the time this cost a lot of troubleshooting and support to vendors and ISPs, which I know is not worth for even if charged to the customer. Consumers don't pay for IP at all, but for having things easier (not reading manuals, not needing to configure tech stuff), having more services and apps. Having more services and apps running into our networks will mean more revenue, depending on your business model (such as more free and PAY TV channels in a sat dish), and possibly because the increase in BW demand. I also see much more customers interest in IPv6 outside of NA, but may be my wrong perception, and not talking about academia. Regards, Jordi
De: Sean Figgins <sean@labrats.us> Responder a: <owner-nanog@merit.edu> Fecha: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Para: "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu> Asunto: Re: IPv6 news
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
And in 6-12 months the new Vista will start replacing XP,
Will start replacing XP on new consumer-grade computers. Corporations will take another 2-4 years to switch, and other people might have upgraded to windows 98 from 3.11 by then.
I think that we need to buy as much time as possible for IP, as V6 is going to be extremely painful for the consumer, and thus the consumer is not going to want to adopt it.
Our jobs, as network designers and operators will be make it seemless to the consumer without forcing them to shell out a thousand or more dollars on new Windows software, and the hardware that will be required to run it on. If that is devising some sort of NAT for the large percentage of customers that don't care, then that may be the direction we need to take.
I have thought for a long time that which v6 is a worthy academic persuit, customers are hardly interested in it when what they have now works.
-Sean
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