If you fix that, I think you deserve an award of some kind. You sir, will have won the Internet. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Shein" <bzs@world.std.com> To: "Colin Johnston" <colinj@gt86car.org.uk> Cc: goemon@anime.net, nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 3:34:26 PM Subject: Re: BGP offloading (fixing legacy router BGP scalability issues) Sounds there's a need for a higher level of dialogue. Hey, if it can be done with Iran... These are identifiable companies not sub-rosa criminal gangs (as we get with spam) so there ought to be some hope. On April 2, 2015 at 21:10 colinj@gt86car.org.uk (Colin Johnston) wrote:
yes have tried chinese language communication as well. none of it works, they dont believe bad traffic is a big issue where it has been proved 100% is bad we do belive this is due to bad abuse practice not informing customers and also deliberately sending bad traffic to test exploits on a large scale.
ssl bad cert signing in china is just a example of this culture
shutting the door if it is shown unfriendly traffic makes sense to me
colin
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On 2 Apr 2015, at 20:50, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
The essence of this discussion is IMHO a little...um...trite.
Be that as it may how many of you have attempted to contact these providers in Chinese?
Or do you all have good reason to believe that is never the problem?
On April 2, 2015 at 11:05 goemon@anime.net (goemon@anime.net) wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Mark Tinka wrote: Most of the spam I get comes from North America. Go figure. I'm not about to cut access to that continent off.
Big difference is that north america is usually responsive to abuse notifications and sometimes has LEO who will listen.
china is neither.
-Dan
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