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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf@dessus.com>
To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 6:09:32 PM
Subject: RE: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls


This, of course, will do no good.  These so called "Robocalls" are exactly that.  They generate a random number to call and play the silly canned message.  If you press whatever the code is to talk to the idiots, they then hand off the call to a call center.

You should ALWAYS talk to the call center behind the robocaller.  The robocaller (the one playing the message) is relatively local and the cost of that call is minimal.  When you select to talk to the robocaller, that generates an international handoff to a call center in India.  This costs more money (it costs THEM more money).  The longer you can keep the bastards talking on the phone, the MORE it costs them.  It can also be quite entertaining and you can keep them on the line for HOURS with enough practice.

If you do this EVERY SINGLE TIME then in rather short order your telephone number will be fed back to the company doing the "robocalling" as a "bad target" and you will get no more robocalls (since there are only two or three companies in the whole world who run the front end for a whole shitload of scammers).

Conversely if you do not answer or hang up on the robo-message, you will be classified as an "excellent target" and you will get MORE calls.

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Chad Dailey
>Sent: Thursday, 19 December, 2019 16:38
>To: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls
>
>Perhaps list the phone number of your representatives or your state
>attorney general's office in your domain contact info.
>
>
>On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 5:28 PM <bzs@theworld.com
><mailto:bzs@theworld.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
>        If you want to end robocalls then every time you get one call your
>        local congress person's or senator's main phone number and say "I
>just
>        got another robocall (perhaps characterizing it like 'for auto
>        warranties' or 'for IRS fraud')".
>
>        Everyone. Every time.
>
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