Since the nominal (15 degree slice) boundary between Mountain and Pacific goes right through the Phoenix metro area, it sort of makes sense that Arizona would stay on the same time year round. Michael
On 15 Mar 2022, at 15:44:12, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
We already have this problem with Arizona, which never changes time for the summer.
-mel via cell
On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
If Canada doesn't do the same thing at the same time, it'll be a real hassle, dealing with a change from -8 to -7 crossing the border between BC and WA, for instance. It has to be done consistently throughout North America.
On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 12:35, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote: The bill is "permanently move all US time zones one hour earlier (-8 thru -5 is replaced permanently with -7 thru -4).
They are *calling it* "permanent DST", but that's not really what's happening, in my engineering appraisal. Or my geopolitical one, but I don't lay claim to professional opinions there. -- jra
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From: "Mel Beckman" <mel@beckman.org> To: "jra" <jra@baylink.com> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:19:11 PM Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST
I don’t follow why cancelling DST has the effect of moving the US fifteen degrees to the east. Also, your subject line reads “permanent DST”, but from your language the bill will be permanent standard time.
I haven’t read the bill, but I’m hoping you can explain your position more clearly.
-mel via cell
On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
In a unanimous vote today, the US Senate approved a bill which would
1) Cancel DST permanently, and 2) Move every square inch of US territory 15 degrees to the east.
My opinion of this ought to be obvious from my rhetoric. Hopefully, it will fail, because it's likely to be the end of rational time worldwide, and even if you do log in UTC, it will still make your life difficult.
I'm poleaxed; I can't even decide which grounds to scream about this on...
Hopefully, the House or the White House will be more coherent in their decision on this engineering construct.
Cheers, -- jra
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