Well luckily we have MEF to set expectations about ones EPL/EVPL/EPLAN/EVPLAN performance. (and formal SLA contracts describing every single aspect of the service and its performance).

Anyways, when I was designing these the back in the days when it was cool and demand was high, customers (other carriers) were getting MTU9100 (to fit customers MTU9000), the whole CFM & LFM shebang (to the point made earlier in the thread that the link should go down on both ends -like it’s the case with a wave) and sub 50ms convergence in case something when wrong inside our backbone.

 

We as a provider got more $$$ from single investment to our wave/fiber, but our customers could enjoy p2p links on par with wave for less $.

 

adam

 

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+adamv0025=netconsultings.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:50 AM
To: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: BFD for long haul circuit

 

>  Unfortunately not. 

 

Fortunately .... very fortunately Mark. 

 

L2VPNs running on someone's IP backbone sold by many as "circuits" has many issues ... stability, MTU blackhols, random drops - and that is pretty much the same all over the world :( 

 

Very unfortunate technology just to mux more users and get more $$$ from single investment.

 

Cheers,

R.

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:43 AM Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.com> wrote:

 

On 17/Jul/20 02:37, Harivishnu Abhilash wrote:

 

Thanks for the update. You have any backhauls, that is running over an L2 xconnect  ? I’m facing issue only on the backhaul link over a l2vpn ckt. 


Unfortunately not. All our backbones are either over dark fibre or EoDWDM.

Mark.