EoIP will tunnel over anything IP, including the public Internet. VPLS will only go over your network. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor@gmail.com> To: "Jürgen Jaritsch" <jj@anexia.at> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:27:22 PM Subject: Re: Branch Location Over The Internet EoIP seems to be what I am looking for, however this recent Mikrotik session says: EoIP could be a solution for tunneling L2 over L3. • EoIP disadvantages: – Fragmentation of L2 frames over multiple L3 packets – Performance issues • VPLS advantages: – No fragmentation. – 60% more performance then EoIP. So it sounds like VPLS might be better than EoIP? I can't find much about EoIP online, so is this a Mikrotik only protocol? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Jürgen Jaritsch <jj@anexia.at> wrote:
Hi,
Mikrotik Routerboard + (encrypted) Ethernet over IP (EoIP). If required: MPLS+OSPF+BGP in the EoIP for additional features.
Build the pseudo Layer2 with two dedicated boxes. In the HQ you can hand it over directly to the MX80 and at the new office you can work with small boxes like Cisco 7301 (also available with redundant PS) or if you need more ports: 19xx ...
#) cheap setup #) can easily transport a few hundred Meg #) you can use refurb parts if required #) big community support for Mikrotik Routerboards #) encrypted transport possible #) works with dynamic IPs #) MPLS in the EoIP allows you to transport VRFs with BGP signaling
Etc etc
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-----Original Message----- *From:* Colton Conor [colton.conor@gmail.com] *Received:* Dienstag, 11 Aug. 2015, 20:23 *To:* NANOG [nanog@nanog.org] *Subject:* Branch Location Over The Internet
We have an enterprise that has a headquarter office with redundant fiber connections, its own ASN, its own /22 IP block from ARIN, and a couple of gigabit internet connections from multiple providers. The office is taking full BGP routes from tier 1 providers using a Juniper MX80.
They are establishing their first branch location, and need the branch location to be able to securely communicate back to headquarters, AND be able to use a /24 of headquarters public IP addresses. Ideally the device at the HQ location would hand out public IP address using DHCP to the other side of the tunnel at the branch location.
We know that in an ideal world it would be wise to get layer 2 transport connections from HQ to the branch location, but lets assume that is not an option. Please don't flood this thread about how it could be an option because it's not at this time. This setup will be temporary and in service for the next year until we get fiber to the branch site.
Let's assume at the branch location we can get a DOCSIS cable internet connection from a incumbent cable provider such as Comcast, and that provider will give us a couple static IP address. Assume as a backup, we have a PPPoE DSL connection from the ILEC such as Verizon who gives us a dynamic IP address.
What solution could we put at the HQ site and the branch site to achieve this? Ideally we would want the solution to load balance between the connections based on the connections speeds, and failover if one is down. The cable connection will be much faster speed (probably 150Mbps down and 10 Upload) compared to the DSL connection (10 download and 1 upload). If we need more speed we can upgrade the cable modem to a higher package, but for DSL that is the max speed so we might have to get multiple DSL lines. The cable solution could always be used as the primary, and the DSL connection could only be used as backup if that makes things easier.
If you were to do this with Juniper or Cisco gear what would you have at each location? What technology would you use?
I know there is Pepewave and a couple of other software solutions that seem to have a proprietary load balancing solutions developed, but I would prefer to use a common Cisco or Juniper solution if one exists.
There will be 50 users at the branch office. There is only one branch location at this time, but they might expand to a couple more but under 10.