Hi Dan- Here are some of the issues we have encountered, not all will apply, and I'll probably miss a few. - "Make ready work" for poles, involves moving all existing utilities around to meet minimum clearances between each. This includes everything from the neutral wire down, including fire alarm, cable, telephone, and any other private stuff already on the pole. Sometimes requires the pole to be replaced if it's too short and the clearances can't be met. - Attachment fees to both the local telco and or power company. Poles may be jointly owned or individually owned, so this may vary per pole. - Obviously the cost of the fiber and innerduct, including splicing and termination. - Municapal approval (and possibly fees) - State approval if crossing a state highway. - Trenching and or horizontal boring costs - Entrance facilities (conduit & costs) to each bldg. if you don't have extra duct work in place - Environmental issues (which may the worst to deal with) - TIME - Although these intallations can go quickly, 6-12 mos or longer isn't unheard of either. - Ongoing maintenance costs: be prepared to fix, or relocate etc. due to drunk drivers, road construction, etc... Feel free to contact me off list if you'd like to discuss further. Keith Wallace Director, Telecommunications PC Connection Services kwallace@pcconnection dot com The information in this email, and subsequent attachments, may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the above named sender. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Lockwood [mailto:dlockwood@shastalink.k12.ca.us] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:58 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Question about experiences with fiber installs in a MAN application Everyone, I was wondering if anyone has some general information relating to fiber installs in an urban environment. Issues that we have brainstormed include permitting, contracting, etc. We are tired of the increasing Telco charges and are looking to put fiber in between multiple locations along a 1.7 mile path. Your comments are appreciated, if there is interest I will summarize the results. Thanks! Dan Lockwood