Ok, but isn't this "one of those things" taken up better with google and yahoo sales people? Operationally, they have a large impact and they responded well. If you only knew how many DDOS attacks your providers (all encompassed) see and soak up, you'd be surprised. YMMV -M Regards, -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 VeriSign, Inc. (w) 703-948-7018 <http://www.verisign.com/> -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu <owner-nanog@merit.edu> To: Patrick W.Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>; nanog@merit.edu <nanog@merit.edu> CC: Patrick W.Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> Sent: Wed Jun 16 16:51:34 2004 Subject: Re: Akamai DNS Issue? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick W.Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Cc: "Patrick W.Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Akamai DNS Issue?
On Jun 16, 2004, at 1:26 PM, Pete Schroebel wrote:
With the Akamai issue we were seeing only partial resolution and since we pay Google a big wack of dough each month it is important for there network to resolve. Additionally, we have the same contracts with Overture/Yahoo/SBC so they are equally important. We even went as far as asking Paul Vixie if we were routed to the blackhole. It is the same issue, just a different flavor.
I really hate getting into flame wars, but I am interested in data about this last event.
You say "it is the same issue, just a different flavor". I am wondering if you meant the problem Tuesday morning is the same problem you had weeks ago, or if the problem you had weeks ago is the same as the problem you are having with Overture / Yahoo / SBC? It is unclear to me exactly what you meant, and "Details are Important". :)
If you honestly believe you had the same problem weeks ago that everyone else experienced Tuesday morning, please give us some more information. I do not believe Akamai has ever had the type of problem experienced yesterday.
-- TTFN, patrick
We have been experiencing this problem weeks ago, this is virtually under the same spectrum of problems that Akamai via AKADNS.NET with their corporate DNS servers that carry traffic for google, yahoo, msn, etc. When we were asking if Akamai blacklisted/blackholed ip addresses ( we meant at router-level or DNS-level ) as we were experiencing lack of resolution to yahoo, and google. We noted that google adwords were using a different dns than akamai and could be seen. The problem continued intermittently throughout the week, yet nobody put the questions we were asking along with the issues taking place from Akamai within dispite our pleas, and requests to resolve this issue. We performed traceroutes, pings, bgp summarys making sure we weren't being blocked before we started pointing any fingers and asking any stupid questions yet we still were ignored and could of helped Akamai prevent such occurances from happening. It is us who is paying google $186,000 a quarter and Yahoo $146,000 a quarter in advertising, you'd think that someone would look our way and see we're having troubles rather than walking on while we were being mugged. Rather than being treated as mere babble we could of provided our logs as we were working within over 30 looking glasses trying to see what was happening and where the problem were occuring. - Pete