I wonder if the banks have ever considered how they have contributed to the problem. If their pages were straight up, no pop-up's, no JavaVirus, etc.... it would be far easier to tell their customers: ============================================================== Here is what our page looks like: The address ALWAYS starts with: https;//www.countrybank.com/... With a page like this. [graphic image] If you have pop-ups, or a different page, stop... ============================================================== But of course, that would not be glitzy enough.... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433