There are lots of carriers but unfortunately they all seem to use China Telecom infrastructure for transport so there is not really a way to get better Internet service there. In our experience MPLS performs better because China Telecom seems to hand off service to the international MPLS carriers before the big Internet bottleneck. Steven Naslund -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:25 PM To: Tom Paseka Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: China Telecom VPN problems (again) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Tom Paseka <tom@cloudflare.com> wrote:
Its quite easy to get MPLS-VPN connectivity into China (Pacnet, Singtel, CPCNet, etc, will offer), but at a price.
mpls != ipsec ... perhaps the OP wants some privacy and authentication and such?
Suzhou and Shenzhen are easily in reach of all the above listed
providers.
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
We tried to get our VPN work from the China Telecom/China Unicom beijing POP for over a year. The Chinese always claimed it was kosher, but we had something like 60%+ loss across our 4 hop VPN for the entirety of the project. Private circuits don't really exist on the mainland, HK and (maybe) Shanghai are about the only places for decent connectivity. :/
On 12/5/12 7:38 AM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists@gmail.com>
wrote:
It's called the great firewall of china. Feel free to shift vendors but it won't help.
Meanwhile make sure none of your users are surfing for falun gong, dalai lama, ai weiwei or whoever else the chicom censors don't like on that particular day
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012, Thomas York wrote:
It looks like I'm having China Telecom issues yet again. They're batting down our SSL VPN tunnels. Switching ports doesn't help. Tunneling the SSL tunnel inside of another tunnel doesn't help. At
this point I'm tired of listening to the screaming by the business
users. Can someone contact me (here or off-list, I don't care) about circuits in China so that we don't have to use China Telecom? We'd only need 2-10 Mbit and Ethernet hand off. We don't need BGP or MPLS or anything remotely fancy. Our main concern is getting connectivity to the business district in Suzhou, but it'd be nice if we could also use the same carrier in
Shenzhen.
Thanks!
-- Thomas York
-- --srs (iPad)