Thank you to those who replied off-list, for the helpful replies! The feedback basically ranged from neutral (maybe a little positive) to really negative. The main emphasis being on: use them only if you are redundant. Seems like things haven’t changed much since 2012. Thanks! On Aug 11, 2015 19:32, "Adam Greene" <maillist@webjogger.net <mailto:maillist@webjogger.net> > wrote: Hi all, We are getting ready to renew our fiber contract with our incumbent provider (Lightower, ASN 46887). We are happy with them, but are looking for alternatives. At the location in question we need about 200M. Cogent recently contacted us, and I shied away a bit, based on this conversation a few years ago: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2012-May/048181.html Have opinions changed since then? Or is Cogent still the "budget alternative to have in your mix, but better to stay away from if you need high-performance, reliable, mostly standalone bandwidth" (which is how I would summarize the consensus in 2012)? Thanks, Adam