-----Original Message----- From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis [mailto:sven@cyberbunker.com] Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:25 PM To: Joe Greco Cc: Brian Johnson; North American Network Operators Group Subject: Re: DMCA takedowns of networks
Is there a better solution that doesn't require intrusive parsing?
Sure. Tell the hoster they've got to shut it down, or else lose their connectivity.
which would be called "blackmail".
sure, have the cops arrest the guy that actually runs the site or uploaded it onto the site, if they cannot (because it simply doesnt happen to be illegal in the country where he resides) they are out of luck and have to live with it.
furthermore, in any case, a proper court order specifically mentioning the url, the customer, the right company out of our christmastree of companies worldwide, etc would be required as we dont plan to decide whats illegal and what not.
ofcourse all of this only applies to "real crime". not to whining dmca idiots, whom are criminals themselves.
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Joe Greco wrote:
So why are we having this discussion?
Because it appears that HE took down non-infringing sites?
Excuse me for stating the obvious. :-)
... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
On the technical side of this question...
Let's say that a customer is doing virtual hosting. So they have a bunch of sites (Let's say hundreds) on a single IP address. Given that one of the sites is misbehaving (use your own definition), how would a provider block the one site, without blocking others that share the same IP address, without looking at every port 80 request and parsing for the header for the URL?
Is there a better solution that doesn't require intrusive parsing?
Sure. Tell the hoster they've got to shut it down, or else lose their connectivity.
Sometimes it can be both simple *and* obvious.
... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
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