Josh,

A city can build a competitive service that is revenue neutral or even a source of income for the city without causing
the earth to shift on its axis. Often, in fact, government is in a position to make large up-front capital investments in
infrastructure that don’t have a fast enough pay-out to attract profit-oriented investors. Quite often, such cities
are not subsidizing the network as you assume here. Most of these tend to be revenue neutral and pay back the
capital investment over a ~15-20 year period. Some even end up contributing to the city over time.

Frankly, I wish City of San Jose would do a Fiber to Everyone Layer-1 only competitive access fiber infrastructure
project here.

Owen


On May 31, 2021, at 10:57 , Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

I think it's hilarious when a governmental entity funded by the taxpayers thinks they have an answer to broadband.  If you're collecting funds from customers, why do you need the City of Sherwood to support your network?

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 6:22 PM Brandon Price <PriceB@sherwoodoregon.gov> wrote:
100/100 minimum for sure.

In our small neck of the woods, we are currently doing 250/250 for $45 and 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps.

We have lost some grants on rural builds because "someone" in the census block claims they provide broadband.. Not hard to put an AP up on a tower and hit the current definition's upload speed.

I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer what they "need"... 


Brandon Price
Senior Network Engineer
City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband



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On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
> At least 100/100.
>
> We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore, that’s what I’d start everyone at if I could.


At $50/month or less?

Maximize number of households of all demographic groups.