Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along. jms
It was really bad this morning. I had problems with Bellsouth, AT&T and Qwest's connection to UUNET. Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and updates about what is going on with UUNET ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Streiner, Justin" <streiner@stargate.net> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: UUNET instability?
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Chris Pace wrote:
It was really bad this morning. I had problems with Bellsouth, AT&T and Qwest's connection to UUNET. Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and updates about what is going on with UUNET ?
There's www.noc.uu.net, but unless the problem is long lasting or severe enough that it can't be swept under the rug, they don't seem to admit to anything on that page. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and updates about what is going on with UUNET ?
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:07:41 -0400 "Chris Pace" <cpace@allmeds.net> wrote:
It was really bad this morning. I had problems with Bellsouth, AT&T and Qwest's connection to UUNET. Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and updates about what is going on with UUNET ?
Hello; For some reason they have been deagregating since Wednesday morning - double the number of prefixes in a little less announced address space. Regards Marshall Eubanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "Streiner, Justin" <streiner@stargate.net> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: UUNET instability?
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or
details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their
have any more phone menus about
network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
Our Manhattan, KS POP had some trouble around 9:00am CST ago but I can't find any evidence. BGP sessions haven't been touched, no downed interfaces, etc... We have one T1 to UUNet at that location. blake
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Streiner, Justin Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:01 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: UUNET instability?
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about
I saw the same thing on our UUNET connection. Backbone: Normal....hmmmmm -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
I got similiar when I called in. I also saw my circuit to them drop at 7:07:42 PDT and a series of up/downs until 7:13 PDT (along with a few BGP resets). NOC claims that that's due to backbone routing issues, which I had a hard time believing (at least the up/downs). I escalated it and got a more knowledgable NOCite who re-iterated the instability issues and said he'd get back to me with more info. - mz
Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted. German On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly.. and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when this happens right after everyone walks out the door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled outages better? Hopefully this is not related to the small explosion that just occured in NYC. It may be an industrial accident, it was at a tech school (auto/etc..) or it may not be. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, German Martinez wrote:
Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted.
German
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, mike harrison wrote:
And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly.. and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when this happens right after everyone walks out the door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled outages better?
Hopefully this is not related to the small explosion that just occured in NYC. It may be an industrial accident, it was at a tech school (auto/etc..) or it may not be.
19th st and 6th avenue, they teach welding among other things so They're likely to have lots of bottled volatile gases around.
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, German Martinez wrote:
Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted.
German
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
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Boiler explosion at 635 Avenue of the Americas: http://www.msnbc.com/news/743536.asp?0cm=c20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of mike harrison Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:16 PM To: German Martinez Cc: Streiner, Justin; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: UUNET instability? And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly.. and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when this happens right after everyone walks out the door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled outages better? Hopefully this is not related to the small explosion that just occured in NYC. It may be an industrial accident, it was at a tech school (auto/etc..) or it may not be. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, German Martinez wrote:
Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted.
German
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
BBC report partial building collapse http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/newsid_1951000/1951380.stm (again AP sourced) -- Martin Hepworth Senior Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Ltd +44 (0)1865 842300 Jacob M Wilkens wrote:
Boiler explosion at 635 Avenue of the Americas: http://www.msnbc.com/news/743536.asp?0cm=c20
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of mike harrison Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:16 PM To: German Martinez Cc: Streiner, Justin; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: UUNET instability?
And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly.. and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when this happens right after everyone walks out the door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled outages better?
Hopefully this is not related to the small explosion that just occured in NYC. It may be an industrial accident, it was at a tech school (auto/etc..) or it may not be.
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, German Martinez wrote:
Justin, We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw. We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with them reseted.
German
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
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UUNET confirmed that they had a network-wide outage (ISIS related) around that time which caused some bgp sessions to reset. The issue seems to be resolved at this time. They are still isolating the problem. Hazim
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Streiner, Justin Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:01 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: UUNET instability?
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655. dan
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote:
UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655.
dan
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find a catastrophe to blame an outtage on. "A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited before long... On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Sean Donelan wrote:
That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets.
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote:
UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655.
dan
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any more details as of yet that they're passing along.
jms
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:02:19 -0500 (CDT), "Robert A. Hayden" <rhayden@geek.net> wrote:
Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find a catastrophe to blame an outtage on.
"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited before long...
telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 HTH, etc. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:10:28 +1000, Lionel <longword@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:02:19 -0500 (CDT), "Robert A. Hayden" <rhayden@geek.net> wrote:
Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find a catastrophe to blame an outtage on.
"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited before long...
telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666
Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 05:48:11AM +1000, Lionel wrote:
Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
Generally something doesn't get "Slashdotted" unless it is fully of poorly written dynamic code which should never have been put in production in the first place, such as PHP doing 20 mysql queries per page view or something else equally stupid and linux kiddie. A BOFH quote generator, on the other hand, is very very simple. It boggles the mind to imagine a server so weak or code so bad that it couldn't handle a couple hundred connections from NANOG readers. If that is the case, I would strongly suggest you reevaluate the language or method in which it was written. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:04:42 -0400, Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 05:48:11AM +1000, Lionel wrote:
Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
Generally something doesn't get "Slashdotted" unless it is fully of poorly written dynamic code which should never have been put in production in the first place, such as PHP doing 20 mysql queries per page view or something else equally stupid and linux kiddie.
A BOFH quote generator, on the other hand, is very very simple. It boggles the mind to imagine a server so weak or code so bad that it couldn't handle a couple hundred connections from NANOG readers. If that is the case, I would strongly suggest you reevaluate the language or method in which it was written.
I beg your pardon? Where did you get the idea that I wrote or hosted it? I was assuming it'd been Slashdotted because it was working fine before I posted the link, then stopped working shortly afterwards. It's also entirely possible the somebody at the site got annoyed at all the requests & put a DENY ALL on it. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote:
telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666
Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
Works fine here.... Are you sure you haven't got uunet between you and it? ;-) - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote:
"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited before long...
telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666
Folks, please don't try to connect to that service. Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
I'll see if I can put up a mirror. -- Steve Sobol, CTO (Server Guru, Network Janitor and Head Geek) JustThe.net LLC, Mentor On The Lake, OH 888.480.4NET http://JustThe.net "The Indians are unfolding into the 2002 season like a lethal lawn chair." (_News-Herald_ Indians Columnist Jim Ingraham, April 11, 2002)
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Sean Donelan wrote:
That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets.
I'd heard something about IS-IS instability, and it doesn't surprise me. On big networks, IGP stability is super-important, be it IS-IS, EIGRP, or OSPF. jms
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