
Yeah...prepending isn't a big deal...but when someone prepends their own AS 70+ times, I wonder WTF they're thinking. On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, James Baker wrote:
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Jon Lewis wrote:
Yeah...prepending isn't a big deal...but when someone prepends their own AS 70+ times, I wonder WTF they're thinking.
I'm sure they get the attention of NOCs around the world as messages like this show up on consoles Oct 22 04:34:05 MDT: %BGP-6-BIGCHUNK: Big chunk pool request (306) for aspath. Replenishing with malloc This time I couldn't be bothered to dig too deeply into who was the cause.

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Lewinski wrote:
You might consider something like bgp maxas-limit 75 to exchange that log message for the less scarey Oct 22 06:34:09: %BGP-6-ASPATH: Long AS path ... As an added bonus, you ignore their route while they're playing such games. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis | I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________

Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org> writes:
Which is exactly what they want. What you *really* want to do is: router bgp foo neighbor bar route-map prepend-this-you-fool in ip as-path access-list 66 permit _blah_blah_blah_blah_blah_blah_blah_blah_blah_ route-map prepend-this-you-fool permit 10 match as-path 66 set local-preference 1000 -r

I'm sure they get the attention of NOCs around the world as messages
Sounds like some automated scripts that didn't do any sanity checking. Process pulls the current BGP table, checks for the longest path, and then prepends the AS that many times to guarantee everyone takes the other path. But if two ISPs are doing this, well, the paths get longer and longer. I just checked our table for those ASs mentioned in your log, they look short now. Guess they caught it. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jlewis@lewis.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:17 PM To: Mike Lewinski Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What's with all the long aspaths? On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Mike Lewinski wrote: like
this show up on consoles
Oct 22 04:34:05 MDT: %BGP-6-BIGCHUNK: Big chunk pool request (306) for
aspath. Replenishing with malloc
You might consider something like bgp maxas-limit 75 to exchange that log message for the less scarey Oct 22 06:34:09: %BGP-6-ASPATH: Long AS path ... As an added bonus, you ignore their route while they're playing such games. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis | I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________

Except when their primary path goes away and relatively few networks install the prepended route. It's all conjecture, but I like the 'in effort to defeat local pref' option. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tomas L. Byrnes <tomb@byrneit.net> wrote:
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Church, Charles
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