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* The IETF makes the standards (for good or ill) and the quality of those standards, and, indeed, the decision about what to standardize has an impact on operations. By attending, you can help avoid disasterous standards and help shape useful ones.

my candidate of the season is rfc 2547,mpls vpns. consider what it will do to your bgp table and the load on the PEs when you have say 100k vpns. and we have customers who want over 1k vpns each.

Sorry to get off the subject, but to answer your question wrt "what it will do to your bgp table and the load on the PEs" please (re)read section 15 of draft-rosen-rfc2547bis-02.txt.

no problem. scalability just might be of interest to providers. i am far from convinced that route reflectors will be sufficient. in a few years, just about every dedicated customer will want multiple vpns, some will want many, and most vpns will cross inter-provider boundaries. the root mis-design here is that it is telco-style, putting the complexity in the core network. this means the core bears the burden of scaling. the internet style, smart edges and simple core, scales sooooo much better. hence my mention of ipsec. but mpls vpns will sure sell hardware. randy